Social Security Disability, the New Welfare System of Today.?

Question

I have seen this more than once. A person gets sick with say depression, alcohol/substance abuse, anxiety, etc. Some behavioral disorder and eventually gets SSDI. I am aware that these are diseases, I have had them myself, but they are treatable. They apply for SSDI, get denied the first time, even the second time, get an attorny, then eventually get approved. With the approval there is a lump some payout. The most recent one I am seeing is a man get a lump some, don't know how much, but he has dependants, so a fair some. Enough to purchase an 2004 Cadillac Escalade, a 2006 Pontiac for his wife, taking a trip to Disneyland, and looking to put a down payment on a home. Sound ridiculous, true, especially from someone like me who has gone to college, received more than one degree, and have been in the work force for 35 years and worked for everything I have. The person I see doing this is 27 yrs of age and has four kids. I realize it is his money, his business, etc. But I'd like to know how I can jump on the band wagon?

Answer 1

That is a slam on those with disabling diseases/conditions that do not allow them to work.



At the same time, yes, there are those who abuse the system. It sounds like the guy you mention, is 'working the system'.



You are lucky to be on the 'working' bandwagon. So stay there as long as you can.

Answer 2

A individual does not just 'jump on the bandwagon" In order to have social security benefits they have to be approved and meet a certain criteria, which is not easy. Even when the person is approved does not mean he is going to be disabled the rest of his life , he can always lose his benefits. The disability has to be severe and last a least a year or longer. College educated people can end up permanently disabled too. Some people are never approved for benefits even though they try for years . When a person does get approved for SSDI income is not counted like it is with SSI. A person has paid enough into the system and has obtained work credits to have SSDI. The monthly payments are not typically high, but with back pay they are free to use it any way they want. I certainly would rather be working then on SSDI. Some people do not understand how the system works , and are under the impression it is easy to obtain when it is not.

Answer 3

I have Schizo Affective Disorder, I suffer from it every waking moment of my life. Yet I still work, some days are beyond extremely hard, and others are much easier. More bad days than good days. I am also alot more higher functioning than others with this disease I will admit that. But when it comes to getting SSI or SSD, I have applied in the past I wont say I didn't. But the way I see it is there are people who need it to live, and there are ALOT MORE PEOPLE who DONT need it yet still get a check from my tax dollars. Plain and simply you are a horrible person for "wanting to jump on the band wagon. You have a curable disease (With the possible exception for Depression, Dysthymia... U dont deserve it, but there have been days at a time where I am so depressed that I do not leave my bed and I urinate and release fecal matter in the bed just because I Can not get up to the bathroom, (Somadays i feel that if I leave my room the Russians will kill me, or I will die and I hear voices telling me this stuff all day long and I fear for my life. If I can work then get off your damn all mighty high horse and shove a jalapeno up your as s and get a damn job and work. I donot take excuses from scum like you at all. your pathetic!

Answer 4

It seems to be that way. You got people collecting social security for every condition under the sun. Its a shame too because medical problems alone are not disabilities. A disability is actually something that substantially impairs one or more major life activities. And this is not something I am making up this is what the courts have actually defined a disability as.



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You need to report people who are committing fraud, waste, or abuse against Social Security. You can report them here: http://oig.ssa.gov/report-fraud-waste-or-abuse DO NOT just let this stuff go. People like this are stealing from those who are truly disabled.

Answer 5

Good for you are overcoming the problems the man faces. Yet, not everyone is you. Some have it more severe. I also don't not think he had enough back pay to buy 2 brand new cars. After all that back pay is blown, he will be living on very little. The wife also has a job, right? Maybe she contributes.



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I have been reading your older questions. You seem to ask a lot of questions about SSDI and bankruptcy. You also ak a lot about food and restaurants. You would save a lot of money by NOT eating out.

Answer 6

there is no way he got that much back pay to purchase all those things free and clear. Maybe a down payment for the cars.

Answer 7

And we wonder why the USA is in death-throes of decline...